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only me
01-06-2008 23:38 |
Why is it that as soon as young riders and in particular pony riders are mentioned everybody treats it as though they are from families with mega money. It is actually not usually the case and also even if the pony appears straight forward that is not always the case. Looks are deceiving and pony riders do have to be as capable as adults of far more years on this planet. Do not always assume that as the children appear pros that they have access to daily training sessions etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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Horseymad
03-06-2008 10:19 |
RE: Under 21's
yes, exactly. Just because there is schemes out there for 'young people' if your parents haven't got the money, and don't want to travel up and down the country, what can we do??? Yes you can leave school at 16 and get a job and fund yourself, but more likely you stay on at college/uni, work every hour of the day to get the grades/keep your horse going/earn some money to help fund your horse, so that in the long run you will have better prospects with a job you want/hours etc, but by the time you have achieved this, 'young riders' has passed and your in the same boat as everybody else. I'm sure some kids have this 'on a plate', but theres kids that ride at 6 in the morning, that are dedicated, but dont have the money or the chance to go to talent spotting, BYRDS etc, but are equally as talented. But what do you do???? Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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(anonymous)
03-06-2008 20:41 |
RE: Under 21's
i work incredibly hard and funded my own horsey-things and eventually my own pony. BYRDS is a fantastic scheme and ive been to many camps, but i strongly agree that money is the best way to get there and the parents help (this is not being nasty its going form experience as a rider that doesnt have the money, does have the good pony, but never gets the attention) If you get me? Strive to get to the top and im sure no matter who you are you will get there eventually. Ive bought my 1st horse (16.2) and is 4yrs old and ill fight to get her there eventaully!! Good luck guys x x x Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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Charlie
04-06-2008 19:17 |
RE: Under 21's
Totaly agree. Iv been trying to find a horse at the moment (iv got an advert on this website so if you now of anything ...) and everything is so expensive! I am looking for loan/ownership deal kind of thing, there seems to be nothing out there, slowly loseing hope to be honest! Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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Fritz
07-06-2008 09:29 |
RE: Under 21's
There is a danger here of young riders focussing on Under 21s and forgetting that they have years ahead to improve and learn. If you haven't the money to buy the sort of horse which will take you into squads and teams, so what?? Try to take the long term view, buy yourselves a horse you can train on over the years and ENJOY what you are doing. Too many young people are looking only at the next few years - dressage is a sport for a lifetime. Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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only me
07-06-2008 10:44 |
RE: Under 21's
Quote "There is a danger here of young riders focussing on Under 21s and forgetting that they have years ahead to improve and learn. If you haven't the money to buy the sort of horse which will take you into squads and teams, so what?? Try to take the long term view, buy yourselves a horse you can train on over the years and ENJOY what you are doing. Too many young people are looking only at the next few years - dressage is a sport for a lifetime." What a pompous attitude. If that is the case why then do we showcase under 21's? I am only making the point that it is not always talent that is given a chance and I always thought that as a nation we wanted to support talent and not just those who can sit on a made pony. Am i just a minority!!!!!!! Other sports the best can get there with talent and hard work - in dressage unless you can spend 5 figures and daily access to internetional level trainers you will not get there - bit sad really. Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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Chippie
07-06-2008 17:51 |
RE: Under 21's
I agree with both of you I agree that young riders need to look to the future beyond "U21" and not get too hung up about getting on the pony / Young Rider Teams. They have to think about what is going to happen if they have to live in the real world without their parents backing (ps I certainly did not find you pompous) And I also agree with "Only Me" in that unless you have a large amount of finanical backing and the right contacts as an Under 21 you are not going to make it no matter how good you are. Lets lighten up here, no personal comments please, there is enough of that on the BD members forum Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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Chocolate Chick
10-06-2008 14:29 |
RE: Under 21's
I disagree. It isn't all about the money, it's about how hard you are willing to work. Put yourself out there and eventually you will be rewarded, who said making it in dressage is easy? Becoming a good rider is all about experience and dedication. If you believe in yourself then one day it will all pay off. Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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perdita
10-06-2008 22:49 |
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Quote "I disagree. It isn't all about the money, it's about how hard you are willing to work. Put yourself out there and eventually you will be rewarded, who said making it in dressage is easy? Becoming a good rider is all about experience and dedication. If you believe in yourself then one day it will all pay off." I agree with you in the "long term" and I really mean long term - if you want to make a future out of the sport I think hard work, correct training and application will get you a long way. However, I very much regret that I believe previous posts are correct in that at junior / young rider and probably at pony level too, far too much influence is due to being able to buy the most expensive mount and how much clout parents etc have in the corridors of dressage power rather than recognising,putting forward and supporting the most talented for the teams. What saddens me about this is that some really good prospects for the future will be put off our sport and turn away to other things, while those that have been supported/pushed to "glory" by parents don't go on once it is a matter of supporting themselves, training their own horses and putting the work in - I am sure we can all think of instances. Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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only me
11-06-2008 00:38 |
RE: Under 21's
Yes that is what I was meaning. I do accept that if you have the talent and work hard you will get your rewards but it is a shame also when so much is geared as you have also said. I do accept it is hard for all ages, levels etc for so many reasons but a lot of people do pass the under 21's off as being supported by mummy or daddy when very often the parents are struggling as much as all the adult riders out there. Sorry long sentence again!! Night night all. Reply to this message Report this as inappropriate |
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